A Story Related Idea

[SirOwnU]

I think that in stories some authors like luck to be a factor (or maybe not.) I think that authors when writing a story would like to use probability in their story. For example, the main character in the story is flipping a coin. (Not as if that somebody would actually have that in a story.) Then the author would choose a probability. (In this case a probability of one to two.) Then they would choose what would happen if the probability ended up on one and on two. (This is just an example of course they could just ask the person to flip a coin and have two options Heads or Tails.)





Comment and/or criticize (mostly criticize I'm sure)

:)

[Dragavan]

So, what you are suggesting is we stop writing stories and start writing games, where "dice" are rolled that determine the outcomes of events rather than based on what direction we want the story to go in...

This is a story writing site and not a game writing site. There are already more than enough of those. Plus, this has been mentioned more than a couple times before and is always shot down. I would guess this time would be the same.

[donteatpoop]

Personally I would never use this feature. Though some of the classic interactive fictions used dice and/or 'point to a number on this random number chart', so I could see the use. However, I could also see this becoming an epidemic of game over story.

I hang out on chooseyourstory.com, and while they have some really talented people over there and some really good stories, for the most part they have a bunch of plotless text-based games. Granted, we have our fair shair of shoddy fiction writing over here, but at least the emphasis remains on the story and not the intricacies of the 'game'.

Think about an awesome story that takes advantage of the game aspect, but the game aspect is either too difficult; too confusing; or poorly constructed. It takes away from what would have been an excellent story. Not to harp on CYS, but they have several stories that I tried to read and was really getting into, but the game aspect detracted from the story (admitedly because they were difficult, but I wanted to read an interesting story not play an interesting game.)

So I can see the advantages, but I fear that it would detract from the quality experience of infinite-story.


(oh, and welcome to infinite-story. It's good to see an intelligent suggestion from a newcomer)

[SirOwnU]

You clearly don't get the idea... I'm not saying that you ONLY use this feature. I'm saying that if somebody wanted to make the main character the reader then some things should be out of their control and they have to rely on chance a little.

[donteatpoop]

You clearly don't get the idea... I'm not saying that you ONLY use this feature. I'm saying that if somebody wanted to make the main character the reader then some things should be out of their control and they have to rely on chance a little.
Cearly you read only fragments of what I typed. I never said it would be a mandatory aspect of the story, and neither did dragavan. Now I understand that I can be long winded at times, but try and keep up here.

There is a consequence to having a randomizer feature, or an items feature for that matter. The consequence is that most new members are going to use it. Why? Because it's 'cool'. What this means is that less and less people will be focusing on the story, and more and more people will be focused on the game.

Are you still with me?

This means that less people will be writing stories and more people will be writing games. It's like bringing liquor to an AA meeting and tell them that they don't have to drink but it's there if they want to, eventually everyone is going to be drunk.

[End Master]

The idea was “gotten”. What Drag and DEP are saying is that they’d prefer to keep the site “pure” writing rather than having the option for variables and such since they’re into stories rather than game like features.

First of all Sev would have to program all that stuff in and given he’s a one man operation, it’s unlikely he’d have the time to do that, as well as work out all the bugs that inevitably come with complex stuff like that. We’d end up with a lot of broken games most likely.

Second, if you really want, you can still make game stuff up on here. Check out Black Citadel or Visual Epic for examples. Most of Cat2000s stories have use of coin flipping or dice rolling as well. The variables just aren’t built in, you have to instruct the reader to do it themselves (Which is what you had to do with the old Fighting Fantasy series anyway)

Barring those you could check out some stuff at CYS. They got tons of game stories over there that use variables, inventory and such.

[Locke]

I agree that it'd be an interesting feature. There's a high ratio of poor and mediocre stories to really good ones here anyway; the quality it'd add to a few good plots would frankly be worth what it'd detract from stories I wouldn't care much for anyway. As stated though, the administrator is most unlikely to add anything of the sort, and this appears to be a somewhat heated issue, with most members opposing the motion.

I'm fine with things as they are; I don't have much use for anything like that in my own writing and that of the other members in good standing is great without it anyway. As others have said, CYS provides for those who want to add a certain sort of interactivity to their fiction. This site has its own distinct style, and caters to those who prefer it to a slightly more game-oriented experience.

It's a nice idea, if you're into that sort of thing, but you probably won't ever see it here.

[ChubbyTeletubby]

*pounds the imaginary gavel*

SILENCE! All members in FAVOR of this motion?

*crickets chirp*

*SirOwnU makes an attempt to speak...*

THE NEWBIE SHALL REMAIN SILENT!

All Members AGAINST this motion?

*There is much murmured agreement. Also, for some strange reason, a cow moos*

THEN IT'S SETTLED! THIS IS A STUPID IDEA! COMING FROM A STUPID NEWBIE! CLEARLY WE HAVE A RULING - MOTION DENIED! THE NEWBIE WILL NOW CRAWL BACK UNDER WHATEVER GOD-FORSAKEN HOLE HE/SHE EMERGED FROM! THAT IS ALL!

Oh...and also, welcome to the site, newbie. We love our newbies. Please don't cry...

Oh God. Look. The newbie's crying. WE'RE SORRY! Jesus...

[thoric]

Bad Chubby!

[drums]

So, what you are suggesting is we stop writing stories and start writing games, where "dice" are rolled that determine the outcomes of events rather than based on what direction we want the story to go in...

This is a story writing site and not a game writing site. There are already more than enough of those. Plus, this has been mentioned more than a couple times before and is always shot down. I would guess this time would be the same.
I was actually about to suggest a game, but it wouldn't be the D&D type of game.
Someone starts with a character and continues until a new member of the party joins, and then the two take alternate paths of the same story.
Another is joined and does the same, and another.
Remember HOID?
This is still non linear, but more structured with rules in place so nobody can mess around with the story or the character's life.

This would be rated M for individual characters, but there will be characters with PG ratings as well (once a personality is picked, there can be no change without a decent motivation).

Note: This is not my game nor do I know if it will be made here (haven't given him the URL yet).

Who would be interested in this, and can you give me alternatives for play?

[Locke]

DRUMS! Good to see you, buddy. If you want to write an interactive story, write it. If it's good, and you've left empty rooms, people will add. Even if the rooms are 80-90 percent nonsense, well, just look at HOID.

[SirOwnU]

Cut me some slack, remember it is just a suggestion. I'm cool if you don't like it, but what I'm not cool with is with you insulting me. I'm not stupid and I hate it when people call me a noob. "Noob" is a cliche over-used stupid insult these days. Also I have no idea what you said about the drunk people up there and I have no idea how it relates to this.

[End Master]

Whee! Drums is back! Usoki will be so pleased!

Seriously, it didn't feel right talking about child sex robots without you.

SOY: Who are you refering to? Nobody here insulted you. If they had, you would've saw a lot more swearing and comments about your mom, intelligence and sexual preference.

None of those have occurred yet, but I imagine it won't be long.

Welcome to Infinite Story!

[thoric]

*pounds the imaginary gavel*

SILENCE! All members in FAVOR of this motion?

*crickets chirp*

*SirOwnU makes an attempt to speak...*

THE NEWBIE SHALL REMAIN SILENT!

All Members AGAINST this motion?

*There is much murmured agreement. Also, for some strange reason, a cow moos*

THEN IT'S SETTLED! THIS IS A STUPID IDEA! COMING FROM A STUPID NEWBIE! CLEARLY WE HAVE A RULING - MOTION DENIED! THE NEWBIE WILL NOW CRAWL BACK UNDER WHATEVER GOD-FORSAKEN HOLE HE/SHE EMERGED FROM! THAT IS ALL!

Oh...and also, welcome to the site, newbie. We love our newbies. Please don't cry...

Oh God. Look. The newbie's crying. WE'RE SORRY! Jesus...

SirOwnU refers to that, End. I think. And in my opinion, we really don't need the probability thing here. Asking the reader/player to roll dice would achieve the same reults without any coding required.

[Locke]

SOU, in case you haven't browsed the forums much prior to this, the members often have a very earthy sense of humor. Additionally, if someone here insults you, they're usually just joking around, not actively trying to offend or belittle you. If DEP tells you to go fuck your mother, that's like him saying "Hello there, nice morning, isn't it?"

Take anything offensive you see with a grain of salt. Actually, when you browse the forums, replace the word "offensive" with "hilarious" in your vocabulary and you'll see things through the eyes of the others. Chubby's posts, particularly, must be viewed through this lens. When he called you a noob, he was actually showing remarkable restraint. Don't be sensitive; roll with the punches and throw a few of your own. There's rarely any actual ill intent behind the words; everyone's just here to unwind and have fun.

EDIT: DEP was making an analogy when he referred to liquor at an AA meeting. He was saying the feature you proposed would be new and shiny and gimmicky (and irresistable, like free alcohol given to alcoholics), and everyone would start using it, making the stories themselves cater to the feature rather than the other way around and leading to an overall decline in quality. DEP doesn't want his fiction drunk on probability. He's pleading for temperance. Infinite-Story is, like it or not (most likely even if everyone supported the idea) a dry county. If you want to immerse yourself in one of those dens of iniquity where they serve the sort of beverage you're after, CYS prides itself on it. This site just has a slightly different flavor, if you will, that's all, and caters to those with a taste - even a thirst - for the distinct and very narrowly defined format it's come to embody.

[End Master]

Another analogy could be calling the Infinite Council a bunch of “Write Supremacists” who don’t want any of this decadent game mixing that dilutes the purity of writing on this site.

It's all a CYSionst conspiracy anyway.

[ChubbyTeletubby]

<insert sound of infant crying>

I SAID I'm sorry!

Lighten up, SirOwnYou. The fact that you're getting this many responses should be a good indicator that it wasn't a half bad proposal. Any discussion around here can get a little heated, just don't take things personal.

I have no idea who you are, but I'm sure you are one of the brightest stars in the sky.

The term 'newbie' was not meant as an insult.

My post was more tongue in cheek than anything. Mmmk?

Mmmk.:rolleyes:

[drums]

So guys, what about my proposal?
A non linear game, but somewhat structured with rules (another player can't play the character of the first without the first player's consent).
You will have the freedom of fantasy creatures with powers, without that pesky 12 sided die.
Just don't mess around with porn (M rated) when the character wouldn't allow himself or herself to do it (must have significant motivation for personality change).

This is not an extension of Dungeons and Dragons, but it will be similar (alternate paths and sub alternate paths lead to character on first path).

By the way, I make an exception for some fictional fantasy creatures when it comes to child sexuallity.
I will not add it if real or fictional human characters.

[Locke]

Well, you haven't changed much. DEP has a story called Arena that's somewhat similar to what you're suggesting. It might get more interested if you began the story yourself, or at least posted the first room to the forums so we can get a better feel for what it's like.

[drums]

Well, you haven't changed much. DEP has a story called Arena that's somewhat similar to what you're suggesting. It might get more interested if you began the story yourself, or at least posted the first room to the forums so we can get a better feel for what it's like.
The trouble is it's not really my game.
I would tell the author where to post it, if I knew ahead of time there is some interest in it.

By the way, I picked a bird woman/angel/goddess (has no nipples) called a Xorn or Zorn as mortals would say (address her in the formal as Crystal Zorn).

I didn't say child sexuality (notice I didn't say child sex) would be in it, just an option I would take if the game calls for it.
Children get horny just as much as adults, they just don't show it, because they don't know what it is.
This comes from a man who's seen alot of cleavage and partial breasts as a child.
Women just love to bend down with open blouses. :D

I guess I can do this after all since he thinks it's not sexual enough.

[SirOwnU]

So basically what "DEP" as you call him, is saying that it would be so new and different that everybody would use it instead of using any of the real stuff and that would make all of it more like a game...? I think



Whatever thanks for the support, comments, criticisim, ect...


I'm gonna go write a story and you'll probably see it in a couple weeks :)

[donteatpoop]

Thanks for breaking down the analogy, Locke.

Mr. OwnU, like I said earlier; it's good to see a new member offering a decent suggestion. This really isn't a bad idea, it's just one that I don't agree with. If you are interested in directing readers to an external source for randomization, here is a google search of "dice roller" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dice+roller) that could come in handy for you.

On a side note, your "friendly" suggestion was followed up by hints of inflammatory speech when you said "Clearly you don't understand..." the word "clearly" tends to ruffle feathers. I mention this only to say that the next time you want to whine about how others are speaking to you, you should first look to how you are speaking to them.

So basically what "DEP" as you call him, is saying that it would be so new and different that everybody would use it instead of using any of the real stuff and that would make all of it more like a game...? I think

That's exactly what I was saying, and I've seen it happen on other sites.

[SirOwnU]

Sure, I'll keep that in mind :)

[Usoki]

*sigh* I'm gone for a few days for Christmas, and this is what I get when I come back? Curses.

drums? No one cares. Few people around here are collaboration happy, and you've managed to piss off those very few who are willing. Maybe you can sucker Apoth into it. But if not? Stop mentioning it. If we're willing to contribute, we will. Otherwise, shut up and do it yourself. Don't tell us how great it will be- show us a finished product. Perferably something other than a descriptionless maze.

And, Sou? (Your new name, SirOwnU). I can see why you'd want to put in a randomizer...but as they've said, either make the user roll dice, or tweak your story to take out that random element and give the reader a choice with unexpected consequences or something.

Personally, if Sev is going to implement a variable feature, I'd rather he put in a "Yes/No" variable. The story I hope to work on next has eight endings, based on how well you do in its three parts. So, as it stands, I will have to duplicate the second part two times based on whether the reader wins or loses the first part, and I will have to duplicate the third part four times based one whether or not the reader WLs, LWs, LLs, or WWs.

But, again- it's easy to work around. Most people aren't going to even bother with something like that. It's just something else to get confused as to how it works. Half of the new people around here can't even figure out room linking until they've screwed it up a few times.

[drums]

*sigh* I'm gone for a few days for Christmas, and this is what I get when I come back? Curses.

drums? No one cares. Few people around here are collaboration happy, and you've managed to piss off those very few who are willing. Maybe you can sucker Apoth into it. But if not? Stop mentioning it. If we're willing to contribute, we will. Otherwise, shut up and do it yourself. Don't tell us how great it will be- show us a finished product. Perferably something other than a descriptionless maze.
Usoka, FUCK YOU!
It was just a suggestion, one I am excited about and what I joined for in the first place, and you down all my hopes and desires within one night!
I had just finished working on rules, one room, and even the fictional society, and this is what I get?

I didn't even get an answer from everyone, just your stupid post assuming you speak for everyone.
Guess what, you aren't king of the world and you speak for nobody but yourself, SO FUCK OFF! :mad:

[drums]

For everybody else, here it is:
http://www.infinite-story.com/story/3755/
It isn't finished, but I made it public anyway.
Please PM me with a character and bio if you are interested.

[End Master]

What the hell is up with all the “animal people” and sex choices?

Did you become a furry on top of being a pedophile?

[Usoki]

I didn't even get an answer from everyone, just your stupid post assuming you speak for everyone.
Guess what, you aren't king of the world and you speak for nobody but yourself, SO FUCK OFF!

This is true. I speak only for myself. I am merely assuming what anyone else would do. Rudely, perhaps- but it's what I do when I get impatient and annoyed. You've tried this several times, as I recall, and you get the same reaction every time- indifference/disgust.

My assumptions of everyone else's reactions is based on what I've seen from everyone else. Most people here are lucky to spend time on their own projects, let alone somebody else's project. I have only seen one collab get off the ground- Apoth's HOID. And that is because HOID has no central plotline- people write what they want when they want to. Even then, most of HOID's content consists of empty doors. Several others, including myself, have tried a collab before or after HOID- they've failed.

Your collab would make people follow your rules. And, I might point out that few people here have EVER written erotic on the site. So half of your choices are going to be more or less ignored from the start. And, quite frankly, few of us have any respect for you, if you haven't noticed. Members to try and ask? Calen might, Thoric and Locke might not hate you yet, and perhaps Sou will help you as his first IS project.

But, honestly? Try a different website. CYS, perhaps. Because, let's face it. To all of us IS regulars- you're the child robot sex guy who wrote that ridiculous maze story and then tried to get us all to stop cussing because children could possibly visit this site but whose campaign was hindered by placing his thoughts of adult material in his sig. If you've changed as a person- we're not going to notice.

By all means, take your idea as far as you can. Write it yourself, or visit other websites with people who don't know you. But, as far as I can guess from their previous actions, most of the people here are not about to assist you in writing your collab. Maybe they'll prove me wrong. But I'd have to see it to believe it.

[End Master]

Drums would probably really like it at CYS, they just had a 9 year old join the site.

Come on everybody, it’s an old fashioned beat down! Don’t be shy to get in your hits, after all that’s what drums are for! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif

[thoric]

Yeah... romance/erotica - not my thing. Besides, I'd rather put up something decent of my own first before trying a collab.

[ChubbyTeletubby]

Well, drums, you seem to have acquired quite a reputation around here. Looks like I missed out on all the fun during my extended absence.

Erotica is not my cup of tea. And I really don't get into the weird (albeit creative) "furry" races that seem to be all the rage these days. Although I do enjoy the High Fantasy genre from time to time, I don't really get into the RPGs anymore either.

More power to you, though.

A quote from your link:

1: Bird - Can fly, can see things in great distances (blurry when close up), strong for his or her weight (very weak with bigger creatures), very fast but less maneuverable, females are more flexible than males, however, males are more apt to be aware of the unseen (have no nipples, but can wear false ones)

Have no nipples but can wear false ones? I don't know why... but this disturbs me greatly. And your comments on child sexuality disturb me as well.

[Vesnic]

All right, guys. I'm not worried about being nice to people if they don't deserve it.

First of all, to SOU: as far as this site goes, you are a n00b. That's right. Those are zeros and not ohhhhh's and they nail down perfectly what you are to us currently: someone who needs to eat a whole lot of humble pie before he can throw his weight around like you are. Speaking of pie, if you'd like to eat mine, I'd be more than happy to PM you my private information. I had no cleavage as a child, but I was almost kicked out of nursery school for touching myself too much. Also, it'd behoove you to leave Poop alone. He has been kind enough to lend out his mother for everyone's use on those interminable lonely nights. Even if your idea is good, which in my opinion it really wasn't, most of us here will come to his defense before we'll side with you, you n00by n00b n00bplop.

As for you, drums...Usoki absolutely speaks for me. Seriously, man. As entertaining as it is to get a daily dose of your schizophrenia, you are still the same dickhole you always were. Who the fuck do you think you are to start demanding shit when you have done absolutely nothing to prove yourself around here? You have produced some of the stinkiest shit this site has ever seen, and yet you expect us all to drop what we're doing and follow you on your next perverted crusade. Get a fucking reality check, buddy.

This brings me to the theme for both of you: learn your place. If we don't know you and haven't read your writing or haven't been impressed by what you've put out in the past, we are not going to take you very seriously. Rather than mouthing off about how right you are, why don't you conserve some of that energy and actually produce something that will win you some respect?

As for your suggestion buried somewhere beneath all that needless posturing: I think it's bunk. It's true that there are already waaay too many sites like that. I-S enjoys a nice unique niche among story/game-writing sites. If you really cannot live without a built-in randomizer, then by all means leave us alone and go over to CYS. We here are focused on the quality of writing, not on its flashiness. You as the n00b have just two choices. You can accept the site the way it is and take others' suggestions for ways you can augment your story, or you can kindly FUCK OFF.

Thank you, and have a nice day.

[ChubbyTeletubby]

I love you, Ves.

[thoric]

*gasp*
Ves said n00b!

[Usoki]

I declare Ves's post to be the official IS State of the Union Address.

She's the contest winner, after all- I think she gets that right. And it was a wonderful mix of current issues and long-running topics all addressed in the IS way- profanely, without anyone caring about the possible offensiveness of its content.

[Vesnic]

Thank you, fellas! *curtsies demurely* I aim to (dis)please.

[SirOwnU]

*sigh* I'm gone for a few days for Christmas, and this is what I get when I come back? Curses.

drums? No one cares. Few people around here are collaboration happy, and you've managed to piss off those very few who are willing. Maybe you can sucker Apoth into it. But if not? Stop mentioning it. If we're willing to contribute, we will. Otherwise, shut up and do it yourself. Don't tell us how great it will be- show us a finished product. Perferably something other than a descriptionless maze.

And, Sou? (Your new name, SirOwnU). I can see why you'd want to put in a randomizer...but as they've said, either make the user roll dice, or tweak your story to take out that random element and give the reader a choice with unexpected consequences or something.

Personally, if Sev is going to implement a variable feature, I'd rather he put in a "Yes/No" variable. The story I hope to work on next has eight endings, based on how well you do in its three parts. So, as it stands, I will have to duplicate the second part two times based on whether the reader wins or loses the first part, and I will have to duplicate the third part four times based one whether or not the reader WLs, LWs, LLs, or WWs.

But, again- it's easy to work around. Most people aren't going to even bother with something like that. It's just something else to get confused as to how it works. Half of the new people around here can't even figure out room linking until they've screwed it up a few times.




If You're associating my name with some kind of dungeon and dice and dragonish medievil game then... you're going the wrong way. I've used this user name in everything since I was... *thinks*... like nine and thats... *thinks*... five years. Also I don't play many of those games, probably because they cost money and I have none. Also I wouldn't even expect this suggestion to be used like that so much...






As for most of you... you really need to simmer down and talking trash and shit isn't a good thing when you extend it too the level you are. You are just people like the rest of us and should act like it. Also don't bother saying anything as a defense from this because it's completely true and will only just prove my point more.



Also stay on topic... if you are done criticizing my idea then you should bring this conversation or... (arguement) into PMs

[drums]

As for most of you... you really need to simmer down and talking trash and shit isn't a good thing when you extend it too the level you are. You are just people like the rest of us and should act like it. Also don't bother saying anything as a defense from this because it's completely true and will only just prove my point more.



Also stay on topic... if you are done criticizing my idea then you should bring this conversation or... (argument) into PMs
That's right, lay off people!
Really, do you know how it feels to be told nobody likes you and you might as well leave and never come back?

As for going off topic, sorry, that was my fault.
This thread was actually off topic to begin with, because it's in the wrong forum.

I am taking this game elsewhere, where my work can be appreciated.
Note: This fictional society was partly based on truth.
The Greeks designated their gods as more deserving than humans, having an abundance of gold in their possession.

[Usoki]

If You're associating my name with some kind of dungeon and dice and dragonish medievil game then... you're going the wrong way. I've used this user name in everything since I was... *thinks*... like nine and thats... *thinks*... five years. Also I don't play many of those games, probably because they cost money and I have none. Also I wouldn't even expect this suggestion to be used like that so much...

I never said that. Never, at any point in time, did I relate your username with D&D. I refuse to type out SirOwnU on a frequent basis, and therefore your name is now Sou. Just like DontEatPoop is DEP. I have no problem with your username- before I brought Usoki to the internet three or four years ago, that was the name I'd use for all of my video game files. But your name is Sou, and if you don't like it, you'll have to learn to ignore it.

As for most of you... you really need to simmer down and talking trash and shit isn't a good thing when you extend it too the level you are.

Did you even look at the forum before you joined it? This is tame for us. If you can't handle vulgar phrases flowing with the abundance of water, then you are in the wrong place. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's true.

You are just people like the rest of us and should act like it.

Of course we're people. We're arrogant people who love to trash talk each other. If you can't accept us, perhaps you'd be better off somewhere else. drums sure will be.

[thoric]

SOU you're only 14? Look drums, another playmate for you. You two even seem to get along.

[Usoki]

That's right, lay off people!
Really, do you know how it feels to be told nobody likes you and you might as well leave and never come back?

I bet it sucks. But you know what else sucks? Having a total stranger come in, announce that his project will be the best thing since sliced bread, and expect everyone to submit material to his project without question. No proof of skill, no proof of worth- just comes in out of the blue and gets offended when no one does what he wants them to do.

I am taking this game elsewhere, where my work can be appreciated.

Is that supposed to bother us? Are we supposed to feel as though we've missed out on something? You have yet to show us any sort of proof that you're a writer. You haven't submitted so much as a mediocre dating anime fanfic. I'd feel a lot worse about this "loss" if I knew there was an actual promise of talent.


Note: This fictional society was partly based on truth.
The Greeks designated their gods as more deserving than humans, having an abundance of gold in their possession.

Do not even go there. One random miscellaneous factoid does not allow you to claim your society is based on truth. You know what else the Greeks did to their Gods? They made them human. They lust, they cheat, they squabble- if anyone acts dignified in a Greek myth, it's usually the hero, not the God. Some were meant as fables- Dadaelus and Icarus being the least subtle, of course. Others were meant as entertainment. But every character, divine or no, got what was coming to them by the story's end. Odysseus goes home, Sisyphus gets an eternal punishment... You name it, it happens. To say that the Greeks wanted their Gods to be more deserving than humans is an inaccurate-unless-generic statement in the least, and an outright falsehood in the most.

[SirOwnU]

*sigh* this is what I mean about extending it to this level. Also this is BEYOND vulgar. This is consistent cursing and trash talk that leads nowhere but consistent cursing and trash talk. I'm fine with average vulgar, and what not but this takes it to a critical level. Even if it is just *playful* or w/e it is still meaningless. If you threaten or be offensive, oh wait I mean "*Hilarious*" to a point when somebody wants to just walk away then that shows you need to simmer down. Don't any of you even care in the least that it's all your fault that Drums is leaving? Out of all of you he is the one that was the most, *or the only one out of some of you,* down to earth and the most mature at that.



By the way everybody calls me SOU and I'm fine with it. Also society is based on the treatment of one to another *which includes truth*

[thoric]

If he can't digest the fact that not all of us share his enthusiasm for that project it is his problem not ours.

We are crass, vulgar, abusive and immature. Deal with it. Or leave. Entirely your choice.

[SirOwnU]

Yeah, can I ask you why?



Are you saying being 14 is a bad thing?




<<edited>> Yeah it's been 10 minutes and I still see you are online, so I'm guessing you don't know why, which just proves my point that it is meaningless :). Well that or you're AFK or typing something long...

[SirOwnU]

Also why are you talking to Drums? He's gone. What do you miss him already? :D



Here's a message from me to you for him http://youtube.com/watch?v=GZmfosAku9w

enjoy :)

[Dragavan]

I usually stay out of these things, as anyone here will attest to, but I feel the need to clarify a couple things about people and reality and the world and this place. AND, I will do it without being vulgar or using crude language... imagine that.

...If you threaten or be offensive, oh wait I mean "*Hilarious*" to a point when somebody wants to just walk away then that shows you need to simmer down...

If you use that as the criteria then nothing should ever be done, said, acted out, or even thought because somebody is going to be offended and walk away from just about anything. In fact I know some people who get offended by words like "poop" and "weenier" or even if you just point at something or don't believe in their god. So you can't really use that as a reason not to say or do something. In fact, most of the people who come to these forums (even those that don't normally use that kind of language, like myself) have no problem with the way this group of goofballs do things... most of the time.

Don't any of you even care in the least that it's all your fault that Drums is leaving? Out of all of you he is the one that was the most, *or the only one out of some of you,* down to earth and the most mature at that.

I can honestly say (without even asking any of them) that no, they don't care. And, frankly, neither do I. You have not been around long and didn't see it when he was last here. You never saw the level of garbage and harassment he laid upon the people of this forum. He basically came into somebody's house and started telling the entire family how they should do everything, all the things they were doing wrong, and all the things that went against his personal belief structure as if they were world facts and absolute truths... Which includes things about making child sex robots for pedophiles and all sorts of crazy stuff.

He is a blight on this place that did not contribute anything useful or even fun at any time (unless you count the fun the argumentative types had with him). Even the owner of the site complained about the things he did and said, and about many of the "suggestions" he made about how the admin should crack down on all the stuff people do around here. Now when Severenz gets annoyed with someone enough to mention it on the forums (and not because of blatant spamming or similar issues that get people banned for from time to time) you know the guy has issues.

Trust me, Drums leaving again is a good thing for this place.


Also, it's probably smart to edit your post and add further thoughts to it than to post a reply directly below your own post. This is highly frowned upon here in most cases (unless it's a continuing story thing or a reply made long after the last one, by days at least, and usually on a new tangent) as it is seen as post count whoring and a waste of space (especially if they are short posts with only a line or few). Not a huge deal, but expect to get teased, taunted, slammed, and insulted if you do it... even a little bit. These guys can be tenacious about things.

[SirOwnU]

Sorry, I ment walk away and NEVER COME BACK

But w/e I'm sure he will find a site that better suits him

[End Master]

Glad to see that the new year's getting off to a great start.

Don't any of you even care in the least that it's all your fault that Drums is leaving? Out of all of you he is the one that was the most, *or the only one out of some of you,* down to earth and the most mature at that.

This is gotta be the funniest statement since Michael claimed he had a 185 IQ.

Seriously SOU siding with drums in any way was NOT the way to go in this little debate. I can only imagine the torrent of insults that are going to be heading in your direction soon.

Drums just took your side because...

1. Nobody else likes him on here because he's already proven himself to be a troll, a liar and a fucktard in the past and on several occasions. He's desperate for friends.

2. You're 14 years old and he's already basically admitted in the past that he's a pedo. (Hence the reason why thoric mentioned that you'd be a perfect playmate for him)

Also drums probably hasn't left at all. He'll probably be back talking about child sex robots and fur faggotry within the week.

Personally I get a chuckle out of everyone verbally abusing the shit out of him (As well as insulting him personally) due to his own idiocy, so I don't mind him around for the "Village Idiot" value. But if he really does leave we don't give a fuck, there are more village idiots out there.

I'd advise that you not become the replacement by siding with him again.

Anyway...

Infinite Story: Where the fun never ends!

[Usoki]

Drag and End have said it all, really.

But as far as your edit goes, Sou? From what I've noticed, the site will count a person as being online at least fifteen minutes after he's left the site. Otherwise, you'd never see anyone on that list. I mean, it's not like the people who are always logged in are always on that list...

So, I wouldn't trust it all that much. Heck, opening new windows will turn one guest into two guests, and so on.

[Vesnic]

You two haven't even licked the tip of the vulgarity iceberg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jSMTcx69-Q

[Locke]

While some of the others were more than a bit harsh in this thread, and I think such was uncalled for, it's true that Drums does not really fit here. The child/animal sex he writes of turned people off when he joined the old forums, and unfortunately that set the tone for his relationship with the rest of the members. First impressions count and all that; the situation was set to happen given the slightest provocation anyway. I'm surprised that the child/animal sex came up and incited all this vitriol so quickly - in Drums's very first thread on these new forums - but I'm not so surprised that it happened in the first place, and unfortunately if he does hang around it will probably happen again. For the most part, SOU, members are more civil to each other and any insults are meant jokingly; you happened, it seems, on one of the few exceptions.

[Vesnic]

you happened, it seems, on one of the few exceptions.

I think this would be better worded as "you provoked, it seems, one of the few exceptions."

[Locke]

Where Drums is concerned, mostly true - but I was speaking to SOU.

[donteatpoop]

Sorry, I ment walk away and NEVER COME BACK

But w/e I'm sure he will find a site that better suits him

He'll be back. He always comes back. Stay away from him, he talks about having sex with children a lot, and since you're underage he may try to take advantage of you.

I don't know why people are jumping on you, but perhaps its a bit of hazing. Deal with it. If it bothers you that much, stop reading the thread. Drums has earned a reputation on the old forums and is likely to recieve this sort of thrashing almost constantly.

[apotheosis]

Alright Sir Own U, I agree that there should be a probability function. Let us let popular vote decided, if it was heavily used it would stay, if a very minimal amount of users to advantage of it, then it would be removed. Unfortunately we do not have a dedicated enough webmaster to try this approach, and I do not blame him because this site is not exactly profitable. Probability can augment a story when used in moderation. The trick is balancing it with good plot line and such. I'd say the vast majority fail to do it, but if you could with your story it would be that much better.


And hello drums. I do believe we will all be fucking robots in 50 years. Much less hassle.


I'm fucking drunk right now.

[Locke]

Well put in all respects.