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JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 07:58 AM
Out of curiosity, are you allowed to delete your own games over here?

Usoki
09-05-2007, 08:03 AM
Sorta. They no longer appear to the public, and you can't edit or view them yourself. But, the title of the deleted work still exists, as well as all of the rooms, for easy undeletion.

JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 08:14 AM
Ah! Cuz at that other site, I just tried deleting my games and nearly immediately they were all republished but from the user "deletedgames". So I gave that obviously fabulous user my trophy, lol.

End Master
09-05-2007, 08:52 AM
Wow. That's almost like the "State" taking everything when you die.

I mean I understand it from the CYS point of view. Obviously they don't want to lose all those stories, but I dunno, not sure if I like that policy.

donteatpoop
09-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Rather than delete your stories on CYS, can't you just hide them from the public viewing? Or is that not an option once it's been "published"?

End Master
09-05-2007, 11:15 AM
I checked and JJJ already deleted them, but like he said they've all been republished under "deletedstories".

If you go to "deletedstories" profile, there's a whole bunch of other stories listed as well that are inaccessible though. I don't know if JJJ wrote those, if he did, then he's certainly been really busy because there's way more than the 36 he said he wrote. Unless those are just test stories he worked on and then erased.

The original reason why JJJ came over was a CYS matter so I pretty much stayed out of it being an "outsider" and all, but I sort of don't like the fact that they just went around his back like that. It was sort of like saying "Hey go ahead and leave! We got your stories, we don't need you!"

Again, I understand why CYS would do what they did, but I don't like it.

I was going to do a little "cultural exchange" sort of thing at CYS, but meh, I think I'll be keeping my IS stuff just on here now. No multiple gaming platforms here, IS stuff is going to stay "Infinite Exclusive"

CYS is alright and they do have some nice features, but given recent events, I think I might have problems with some of the policies there in the long run, so I'd rather just stay on good terms with them from afar, rather than deal with what JJJ did.

JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 04:00 PM
I checked and JJJ already deleted them, but like he said they've all been republished under "deletedstories".

If you go to "deletedstories" profile, there's a whole bunch of other stories listed as well that are inaccessible though. I don't know if JJJ wrote those, if he did, then he's certainly been really busy because there's way more than the 36 he said he wrote. Unless those are just test stories he worked on and then erased.

The original reason why JJJ came over was a CYS matter so I pretty much stayed out of it being an "outsider" and all, but I sort of don't like the fact that they just went around his back like that. It was sort of like saying "Hey go ahead and leave! We got your stories, we don't need you!"

Again, I understand why CYS would do what they did, but I don't like it.

I was going to do a little "cultural exchange" sort of thing at CYS, but meh, I think I'll be keeping my IS stuff just on here now. No multiple gaming platforms here, IS stuff is going to stay "Infinite Exclusive"

CYS is alright and they do have some nice features, but given recent events, I think I might have problems with some of the policies there in the long run, so I'd rather just stay on good terms with them from afar, rather than deal with what JJJ did.

Thats a really good idea. BTW deletedgames is where ALL deleted games from any member goes. I probably have about 50-60 in there. I only published about 35 of them though. The rest were drafts or lost inspiration.

I don't know its just that the member base really doesn't know where their loyalty lies. I had a real problem with fleshnblood_78, and a few others who basically told me to fuck off, its all been dealt with. It really hadnt been.

Even people who didnt really know me and such (DEP) were behind me on this. Obviously some people over there really have some bias towards me. By the way, the story quality is a billion times higher over here. Glad I came. Thanks for rocking guys. (Keep your stories over here, you never know how much advantadge will be taken if you go over there. Heck once their published their yours in name alone)

Vesnic
09-05-2007, 04:10 PM
Well here here! I propose a toast to our new friend Benedict Arnold and his comrade! We welcome you here to the land of the wonderful, the righteous, the crusaders, the knights and ladies in shining armor/lingerie, the freedom fighters...the fatally bored!

Nappi
09-05-2007, 04:43 PM
are you people just gonna dance around this without giving us the goods?
Come on give us the skinny;what the fuck happened over there?

march5th00
09-05-2007, 04:51 PM
The reason that those stories were the only accessible ones from the deletedgames account (which is a deleted games graveyard) is because they were featured on the front page. It was an unfortunate mistake that only looked bad. Anyways, we address the incident in our news and updates forum.
Meh,
Hey JJJ! We're already missing ya man. Glad to see you've received a warm welcome.
march

Nappi
09-05-2007, 04:53 PM
The reason that those stories were the only accessible ones from the deletedgames account (which is a deleted games graveyard) is because they were featured on the front page. It was an unfortunate mistake that only looked bad. Anyways, we address the incident in our news and updates forum.
Meh,
Hey JJJ! We're already missing ya man. Glad to see you've received a warm welcome.
march

can you address it in ours?the gossip I mean...

End Master
09-05-2007, 05:27 PM
Well like was mentioned, the initial argument was CYS policy disagreement between JJJ and the CYS Staff.

Two folks plagiarized JJJ’s work and he really didn’t like it. CYS Staff said they punished the two people for it, but JJJ didn’t think they were punished enough and a big argument ensued and JJJ ended up coming over here.

The rest of the story is pretty much in the thread.

I was just talking about this stuff with Solostrike over at CYS, so I’m pretty much done with the subject and I wasn’t even involved!


Anyway it looks like that political marriage to unite the great tribes is off. I don't think Ves would've liked that idea anyway. Lol.

JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 07:52 PM
No, the first one wasnt even punished. He was just scolded. I can only guess what you might have heard from Solostrike, Im pretty sure it probably makes me look pretty bad. Him and Fleshnblood_78 seem to be out to get me lately. Id say it was jealousy but they dont have much to be jealous of lol (besides like 2x as many points and a bazillion more posts and featured games before and such but thats beside the point).

Also I really didnt like how about 1% of the community was behind me, and most of the major members were against me. That just pissed me off. So I fucking came over to the land of the people who dont mind you saying fuck. Im loving it.

JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 07:55 PM
oh and by the way, he purposefully brought them back from deleted games. They were off the catagories until he purposefully brought them back in. There was no "mistake that makes them look bad". Im familliar with the system

Edit: Shit my apologies, should have used your awesome edit feature to just edit my last post.

Double Edit: (God I love this feature)

by march5th00 Today at 11:01
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Funny thing is, it looks like primates and simpsons pretty much got what they wanted - JJJ gone. Does that mean they win the argument?

It's a silly reason to leave (somebody wasn't punished enough?) but to each his own. To the rest of the community, don't worry! JJJ's stories will live on through our friend "deletedgames"

march

That really supports what I just said.

End Master
09-05-2007, 08:21 PM
Ipod also sent me a PM about joining a contest or something, but I declined. As for Solostrike, he didn’t mention you or this incident; he was basically speaking to me in general, saying if I had any questions to go ahead ask him and stuff. He mentioned he’d been lurking over at IS a few times.

It was more of an optimistic PM since he was going on about how it seemed like the sites were starting to bridge a gap and come together and how it would be better for the CYOA communities to join together. Even a mention of maybe a unification of the sites one day.

However, all this stuff was occurring at the time, and I just mentioned to Solo that recent events seem to have widened that gap again. Basically I gave my position like I have on here, that I wouldn’t be writing over there in the near future. I might visit, but that’s about it. And I basically said everyone over there was pretty cool with me while I was playing foreign ambassador, so it’s not like I hated them or the site, it just wasn’t where I was going to be.

I got another PM from him just now and he was cool, he just didn’t want any hostilities between the two sites, which like I said, I don’t really have. (I don't speak for other people though, they can be as mad as they want!)

JJJ-thebanisher
09-05-2007, 08:24 PM
Thats cool man. Ill continue to be fairly passive agressive (an oxy moron in its truest form. gotta love it) towards em

Vesnic
09-06-2007, 06:00 AM
Call me a snob, but I don't really see the need for unification of the two sites (as End so cleverly guessed). I think there would just be a lot of bickering and neither side would be really content. For instance, we would have to either force them to appreciate our filthy fucking mouths or we would have to start talking like televangelists, which I know wouldn't appeal to too many of us around here. Also, the basic emphasis of the two sites is totally different. Drag was right to call you guys out on using the term "game". That's just not what IS is all about. IS encompasses games and a lot more in the world of literary possibility. I'm afraid that if we joined forces, the site would become game-dominated and from my point of view at least, speaking articulately, that would really suck ballass shit.

Plus, I'm a bloodthirsty warlady at heart. If I weren't presently chugging my pre-work beer and getting ready to leave for the day, I would probably be plotting some sort of sabotage...muahahaha!

End Master
09-06-2007, 07:24 AM
But we would've gotten a dower for marrying you off and used the money to pay Sev to do some work on the site!

Then you could've just accused domestic abuse or impotence, (or both) got a divorce and then ran off with Chubby.

JJJ-thebanisher
09-06-2007, 08:24 AM
But we would've gotten a dower for marrying you off and used the money to pay Sev to do some work on the site!

Then you could've just accused domestic abuse or impotence, (or both) got a divorce and then ran off with Chubby.

From what I've heard that might lower your life expectantcy about 20 years. (Running off with Chubby)

Usoki
09-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Bah. Besides, the unification of both sites would mean inheriting the gibbering monkeys who can't type or write worth shit. I mean, come on- we just got rid of drums. Do we really need anyone worse? It's bad enough the people who write the "lol I'm writing a story" people break 20 rooms and make their crap viewable...but the CYS people would write crap like that and haunt the forums with rampant stupidity.

End Master
09-06-2007, 10:04 AM
Hey, DEP's still over there being an ambassador, you guys trying to get him killed?

Because if you are, then that's hilarious.

Usoki
09-06-2007, 02:14 PM
Well, yes, but we all know I'm an elistist bastard. I'm the replacement MRH- it's in the official guidelines. I don't hate all of the CYS people- just the idiots. I'm against the merge, because the CYS idiots would come over. The good CYS people couldn't possibly make up for the stupidity that would swamp IS.

And this is also why I hate drums with a burning passion. I think everyone would agree that drums is a flaming douche- just with varying levels of agree-ness. (Smoldering douche versus Infernal douche?)

Dragavan
09-06-2007, 02:31 PM
Well, yes, but we all know I'm an elistist bastard. I'm the replacement MRH- it's in the official guidelines.

Yes, but we actually LIKE you, so you can't be a true replacement for MRH.

As for Drums, yes, nobody really liked him.

I would also not want to see a merger, but more for the fact that they are different kinds of sites (they are more game and we are more story). They should each exist and have their style, coexisting on the net. Just as I would not want to see this place and Story Sprawl or any of the other CYOA style sites merge. They all have their place.

Vesnic
09-06-2007, 02:31 PM
I like to think of drums as a volcano-on-Jupiter douche.