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Hi! My name is: Katie
09-18-2007, 07:46 PM
Has anyone heard about or seen the coverage on the University of Florida student that was shocked by police officers at a Q&A with John Kerry? I've seen several versions of the footage, and I really don't understand why they were harassing the kid. Here's the breakdown:

Student asks a question. In order to have his question understood by the audience he had to explain some things about why he was asking the question. As he was explaining the question, police officers make their way to stand near him. He finishes asking his question which is kind of a three parter, or three questions depending on how you look at it.

As he finishes asking the question, the police officers start grabbing him. He starts to yell, asking if people can see what is happening. He asks why he is being arrested repeatedly. None of the officers seem to be responding, and I didn't hear them reading him his rights, though they could have been. He pulls away from them, and they begin to restrain him in earnest. He doesn't want to go with the crazy people in the uniforms that won't answer his question, but keep manhandling him... I sympathize, I'm not sure I would have wanted to go with them either.

Then you can hear one of the cops say something like "do it" and he begs them not to taser him then he starts squealing as if in pain.

The university has released a comment about the situation, and says that no students were harmed... he sounded like he was harmed, plus the psychological impact of having his first ammendment rights burned must really cause some pain. He's been charged with resisting arrest violently which is a felony, and some other lesser crimes. From what I saw in the University of Florida policy manual, the only crime he commited was disrupting the function by asking his questions. But, Kerry had told him he would answer the question, so asking it doesn't seem inappropriate.

The question is this, who is on his side? Who thinks he was abused at the hand of law enforcement officials? And, who thinks he should have shut up and taken a seat and minded his manners? And if you think he should have shut up, do you think he should have been forced to shut up with a taser?

I'm pretty sure this kid will sue their asses and end up not paying for his student loans. In fact, I kind of hope so.

End Master
09-18-2007, 08:22 PM
The cops over did it, but he was being an obnoxious little snot that was really playing up for the camera. (Up until he got tazered)

Basically as soon as they took him away, he started acting like he was a political prisoner, and even getting a kick out of some of the people cheering him on a bit like he was some sort of rebel who was fighting the power.

Had he just left it at that, nothing more would’ve happened. He would’ve been thrown out by the cops and he could’ve gotten a little interview with the school newspaper and said how fascist America was becoming and all of that. No real harm done to either side.

Where he fucked up was when he actively started trying to get away from the cops. You just don’t do that unless you’re fully intent on making a run for it, not putting on a show and being a drama queen. Unsurprisingly the cops got increasingly more aggressive and eventually tazered him.

Now that was where the cops fucked up since of course that makes them look like a bunch of jackbooted thugs. He wasn’t some big crackhead, he was a college punk and there wasn’t need for it. The intelligent thing to have done would’ve been to just drag him out as quickly as possible.


Meh, I'm not really on anyone's side here. The cops overreacted, but really he brought it on himself. As a general rule, you should always expect the cops to use excessive force when given any excuse to do so. (No matter how slight) While it may not be "right" that they may act that way, that's usually how it is.


Of course there is always the possibility that the college guy is brighter than he appears and he purposely made so much of a scene that the cops WOULD tazer him and he could sue as well as look like some sort of political martyr. Not totally out of the realm of impossibility.

Locke
09-18-2007, 09:24 PM
What, they didn't have any "free speech zones" set up a few streets over from the session for him to ask his disruptive questions at?

apotheosis
09-18-2007, 09:43 PM
After reviewing the news articles and material I have to say the cops behavior seemed a little fascist to me. They way over did it with use of force and I think the situation could have been resolved much more diplomatically and without the show that occurred. I do hope they are found to have used excessive force... otherwise it is a slippery slope that will end in what they have in China where it is illegal to even look up information on Tiananmen Square.

xnull
09-22-2007, 06:38 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

Nappi
09-23-2007, 10:11 AM
...will end in what they have in China where it is illegal to even look up information on Tiananmen Square.
Sad to say,but there is no public access to such info thnx to Google's deals with the devil.Even if you wanted to break their laws and research the massacre,you cant.:mad: