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  • Variables can be done the long way here. A lot of copy/paste is involved.

    [edit]which you just said...
    The organ is grinding but the monkey won't dance.

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    • Don't get me wrong... I agree with you. Daybreak, Reality Shift, and Rentyre all rely fairly heavily on variable room setups, and they're fairly obnoxious to work with unless you're the type who can plan it all out in advance. That being said, I see where the opposition is coming from- there's probably a point where too many variables makes it less a story and more of a game- even it if it is a very prose-thick game.

      But it's a fairly moot point, because apathy wins out in the end. Sev runs a free site, and I really don't feel like I have the right to make demands on what features he should or should not add. And unless it's a very simple $VarName setup, it just may end up being too complex for me to care to use. That's why I ignore CYS, at the very least. Say what you will about IS, but it's extremely intuitive.

      Edit: And since I'm bored, here are the best examples of the past few times we've discussed this issue. This thread, where we talk about CYS's various features.

      And then there's this thread, where we discuss why most of the veterans are against such a feature. And also, we lay the smackdown on a pretentious douche-y n00b. And also drums is there. I recommend you read that thread for the comedic value, if nothing else. Fucking drums.
      Last edited by Usoki; 08-19-2012, 10:48 PM.
      Originally posted by Ryan_DuBois
      Usoki, you're the crankiest asshole we know. Not that it's a bad thing, it just means that you smell funny and are best left hidden in darkness.
      And it's embarrassing when you make any noise at all.

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      • Fuck Sev, I've spent hundreds hours of my time reading stories on his site ...okay maybe not actually hundreds but a more reasonable amount... and posting my own valuable contributions ...technically true, I did post part of a story this one time before I removed it..., and I click links all the time. I mean, lots of links, more than I can count...because I've clicked a lot of links okay, not just because I can't count very high...so what I'm getting at here is he owes me, big time.

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        • It's worth bringing up again, I suppose. We may be able to come to some form of compromise this time around. But I wouldn't hold your breath, because I'm frankly not very optimistic. See above, where I've editted in some choice background material. Damn, now I wish we had a new stupidly naive n00b to abuse. It's always so much fun whenever we get some puritanical sap who joins before taking a cursory look around the site.
          Originally posted by Ryan_DuBois
          Usoki, you're the crankiest asshole we know. Not that it's a bad thing, it just means that you smell funny and are best left hidden in darkness.
          And it's embarrassing when you make any noise at all.

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          • Okay yeah I don't expect anything to actually happen, I just felt like complaining a bit. I'll have to use CYS and that sucks but I'll probably survive. vv

            I didn't realize it was such a heated topic in the past but I guess getting mad about other people having wrong opinions is the whole point of the internet anyway. Anyway thanks for the link, I haven't read that whole thread yet but I'm going to because I love drums and the OP's name is 'SirOwnU'.

            If something was going to be added though, one day, far in the future (lol I typoed that as fart in the future I'm so hilarious lol) for a compromise and/or hook to hang a massive derail upon, how about simply the ability to jump to different pages based on a trigger? I know fuck all about scripting anyway, but when I was working on Shadow of a Bloody Moon, once I figured out 'IF %VARIABLE = 1 THEN $DEST := @P16 ELSE $DEST := @P32' (ie: 'if a specific variable has been triggered go to this page, if not go to that page', for those of you not as smart as me) I had a huge amount of freedom to implement choices that actually manner in a non stupid and clunky way.

            Though for what it's worth I don't think even the ability to roll dice or whatever is going to bring doom and destruction and racial impurity down on IS, we already have a ton of shitty low effort 'stories', I don't think making some of them shitty low effort 'games' in the future is going to hurt anyone, and it's not like we're exactly getting flooded with new authors of either sort anyway. Also Dragavan is a dumb person with bad opinions.
            Last edited by mizal; 08-20-2012, 08:06 AM.

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            • Originally posted by mizal View Post
              So what have you assholes been up to lately? This site isn't as fun anymore, there was all this bitching and drama and now nothing for like over a month.
              Well Threadkiller got banned for being a fucktard that was hacking or trying to hack.

              Ves went into lurk mode again because she's going on to bigger and better things and will one day post once again when she's ready to shove it in all of our faces.

              As for Chubby, he got banned and went to rehab...lol no just joking, he's dead.

              So no more drama for now.

              But if you don't want to deal with CYS there is also Choice of Games which also does the variable thing. Though I find some of the natives there get too damn preachy about certain topics so I sort of stopped posting there as frequently so as to avoid potentially getting into a flame war and ultimately banned. Now I just respond to threads whenever my name or stories are being discussed.

              Some CYS and CoG people tend to bounce back and forth between the two sites, so you'd probably just be getting annoyed with the people there anyway.

              As for this place getting variables I wouldn't count on it anyway, Sev doesn't update the site much and I assume he's still pretty busy with his real life situation.
              Last edited by End Master; 08-20-2012, 11:46 AM.
              Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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              • I'm not trying to imply the drama was a good thing, it sucked and was stupid but at least people were posting.

                One time I was on that CoG site and I played Choice of Romance, or maybe it was Choice of Intrigues, anyway my (male) character became concerned the queen was going to hook up with another woman and have a baby. How wasn't really explained but I assume magic.

                I haven't really looked at the forums much, it's disappointing to hear the CYS crowd is hanging out there though, I was expecting the community to be insufferable in an entirely different way, not more of the same.

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                • Originally posted by mizal View Post
                  I haven't really looked at the forums much, it's disappointing to hear the CYS crowd is hanging out there though, I was expecting the community to be insufferable in an entirely different way, not more of the same.
                  Its more that CoG people visit CYS rather than the other way around. Though there are a few members of CoG that are 10 times more annoying than anyone from CYS, but then I've never really been excessively annoyed by CYSers.
                  Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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                  • Well back to what this thread was originally for...

                    Eternal: 95% Completed (I'm guessing as usual!)

                    Currently working on the second chapter of the last path for Eternal. I know this story still isn't going to be done until sometime next year, but if I manage to get more writing time in, it would be cool to at least complete the second chapter before this year ends.
                    Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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                    • Eternal: 97% Completed

                      Going on a trip soon, so here's a pointless update!

                      Completed one full path for chapter 2 which was definitely one of my goals before the New Year. I'll probably have time to work on my story a bit while I'm on my trip so I'm pretty confident that I'll get the second major path finished along with the background links as well.

                      If I get really ambitious I'll manage to complete all of chapter 2's side branches before the New Year, but I doubt that'll happen. Still, at least the end is in sight for chapter 2 in general.
                      Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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                      • Eternal: 98% Completed

                        Finished up an epilogue for Chapter 3C2. Going to try to finish up another one tomorrow or at least this week. The end is starting to be in sight for this major story branch.

                        This particular branch turned out a lot different from how I first envisioned it, but that's good since it won't be similar to the others.

                        Next step will be to finish the second epilogue and then tie up A LOT of minor branches, might add another epilogue too, not sure yet.

                        After that's completed, I'll have to work on Chapter 3C1 and after that, finished completely.
                        Last edited by End Master; 04-16-2013, 01:27 AM.
                        Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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                        • just write a fucking book

                          it would be less work

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                          • Let's rename this to the Eternal Progress thread.

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                            • Well might as well update since I'm in non-lurking mode…

                              Eternal: 99% Completed

                              Currently working on the final chapter for the story. Got about 90 pages on Word written so far for it.

                              Right now I'm working on a major branching point which will eventually give two epilogues.

                              After that's finished I'll go back and finish up the other major one which will give the final epilogue for a total of thirteen for the whole story.

                              Then after all of that's completed it will be the systematic process of tying up all the minor branches and dead ends before posting.

                              Hopefully I'll be on schedule for at least sometime this October.
                              Writing: It's more fun than a barrel of Ebola ridden monkeys!

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                              • That's great and all but when are you going to bring back Primal?

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